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	<title>Comments on: Controlling the Media in Iraq</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; One for the Status Quo MediaActivist</title>
		<link>http://contexts.org/articles/spring-2008/controlling-the-media-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-2113</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; One for the Status Quo MediaActivist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] its lesson in marginalising media coverage of war. Gradually, reporters were kept at bay and into press pools, for their safety, we were [...]</description>
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		<title>By: andrew m. lindner</title>
		<link>http://contexts.org/articles/spring-2008/controlling-the-media-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-624</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew m. lindner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kcl, thank you for your comments! I always appreciate hearing the perspectives of veterans who always have a much clearer sense of what happened on the ground than I do.  

I also agree with your comments and don&#039;t see them as incompatible with what my findings.  Indeed, as my research indicate, journalists reporting from Baghdad had as narrow a lens as embedded reporter, but from the civilian side of war. Most journalists chose to be embedded because it was more safe, the Pentagon preferred it, and they got great coverage from the inside of a military unit.

All reporters have subjective views and, at times, that can come on the page.  It&#039;s an interesting topic, but outside the purview of my study.

Where I might disagree is the idea that the journalists are there to tell the story of the &quot;American Fighting Soldier&quot; or that they are even *supposed* to be there in the role of Americans citizens. In my view, the job of a journalist to try to represent the totality of the events as best as they can, attempting to capture as many people&#039;s experiences as possible.  They also need to serve as a counter-balance to the power of all governments by seeking out any and all abuses of that power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kcl, thank you for your comments! I always appreciate hearing the perspectives of veterans who always have a much clearer sense of what happened on the ground than I do.  </p>
<p>I also agree with your comments and don&#8217;t see them as incompatible with what my findings.  Indeed, as my research indicate, journalists reporting from Baghdad had as narrow a lens as embedded reporter, but from the civilian side of war. Most journalists chose to be embedded because it was more safe, the Pentagon preferred it, and they got great coverage from the inside of a military unit.</p>
<p>All reporters have subjective views and, at times, that can come on the page.  It&#8217;s an interesting topic, but outside the purview of my study.</p>
<p>Where I might disagree is the idea that the journalists are there to tell the story of the &#8220;American Fighting Soldier&#8221; or that they are even *supposed* to be there in the role of Americans citizens. In my view, the job of a journalist to try to represent the totality of the events as best as they can, attempting to capture as many people&#8217;s experiences as possible.  They also need to serve as a counter-balance to the power of all governments by seeking out any and all abuses of that power.</p>
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		<title>By: KCL</title>
		<link>http://contexts.org/articles/spring-2008/controlling-the-media-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>KCL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me start by saying I am a Soldier and served 3 tours in Iraq and worked with media extensively. I think there are few things the author is overlooking in his research. 1st, why were the reporters there? Were they there to tell the story of the American Fighting Soldier the American reader or rather to tell the story of the war to the world? 2nd, you must consider the number of Iraqi media outlets. Prior to the war all media in the country was government controlled. There were only a handful of print and broadcast media outlets. I don&#039;t recall the exact number, but it was less than 15. After the fall of the government and the capture of Saddam, the number of media Iraqi outlets skyrocketed to more than 100. Why? Free speech. Those who could sustain, have sustained. 3rd, no news is completely neutral. No matter how much we like to fool ourselves, research shows we all have underlying reasons for writing or viewing events through a specific lens and portraying it in a certain light. 4th, why did reporters choose to embed (and it was a choice) why were the ground rule established? Safety and security. I can assure you getting shot at only looks cool in the movies. In reality, when bullets start flying and bombs are exploding, everyone looks for cover. Reporters sought the safety and security of the military for self preservation. There are numerous cases of journalists being shot, wounded even killed when operating as unilaterals. Additionally, numerous reporters conducted themselves in a manner placing themselves and military members in danger. (Geraldo Rivera&#039;s famous sand table map jumps to mind). 5th, and most obvious is the pay off. Not just financially, but for their careers. Every reporter was there by choice. None can say they weren&#039;t being extremely well compensated and that following in the footsteps of those who reported during the Vietnam War might not help advance their careers. Finally, might there not have been some sort group psychological effect. Not say the reporters were held captive, but as with any group, the longer you are with them, the more relate to their days, lives, struggle, etc. 

Okay, that&#039;s my two cents for what it&#039;s worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me start by saying I am a Soldier and served 3 tours in Iraq and worked with media extensively. I think there are few things the author is overlooking in his research. 1st, why were the reporters there? Were they there to tell the story of the American Fighting Soldier the American reader or rather to tell the story of the war to the world? 2nd, you must consider the number of Iraqi media outlets. Prior to the war all media in the country was government controlled. There were only a handful of print and broadcast media outlets. I don&#8217;t recall the exact number, but it was less than 15. After the fall of the government and the capture of Saddam, the number of media Iraqi outlets skyrocketed to more than 100. Why? Free speech. Those who could sustain, have sustained. 3rd, no news is completely neutral. No matter how much we like to fool ourselves, research shows we all have underlying reasons for writing or viewing events through a specific lens and portraying it in a certain light. 4th, why did reporters choose to embed (and it was a choice) why were the ground rule established? Safety and security. I can assure you getting shot at only looks cool in the movies. In reality, when bullets start flying and bombs are exploding, everyone looks for cover. Reporters sought the safety and security of the military for self preservation. There are numerous cases of journalists being shot, wounded even killed when operating as unilaterals. Additionally, numerous reporters conducted themselves in a manner placing themselves and military members in danger. (Geraldo Rivera&#8217;s famous sand table map jumps to mind). 5th, and most obvious is the pay off. Not just financially, but for their careers. Every reporter was there by choice. None can say they weren&#8217;t being extremely well compensated and that following in the footsteps of those who reported during the Vietnam War might not help advance their careers. Finally, might there not have been some sort group psychological effect. Not say the reporters were held captive, but as with any group, the longer you are with them, the more relate to their days, lives, struggle, etc. </p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s my two cents for what it&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: The hazards of embedded journalism &#171; Down But Not Out</title>
		<link>http://contexts.org/articles/spring-2008/controlling-the-media-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>The hazards of embedded journalism &#171; Down But Not Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and publicly worried reporters would do little more than serve up rosy stories about soldiers’ courage and homesickness’. These fears proved to be grounded. Captain Victoria Wedgwood-Jones has stated that ‘the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: schmedlap</title>
		<link>http://contexts.org/articles/spring-2008/controlling-the-media-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>schmedlap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much of the discussion and data in this article looks at the reporting in terms of reporting about Soldiers versus reporting about civilians. Just because a news story features civilians, that does not mean that it is any more or less truthful or objective than a story featuring Soldiers.

As for the embedding process, obviously Soldiers are far more accessible if you work among them. But was this program intended to force reporters into close proximity with Soldiers or did the media jump at this program in order to obtain that close proximity? I think it is clearly the latter. If there is an invasion going on, which story do you think interests people more: stories about our Soldiers or stories about civilians? This is an editorial decision. News outlets stay in business by selling advertising space. If nobody watches the program or reads the print, then the advertising space is not worth much. In order to get people to keep reading/watching/buying, they need to present news that interests people.

Among the “independent reporters” many were independent specifically because they would not find what they were looking for if they were in the vicinity of Soldiers – regardless of the conditions of the embedding program. So, again, it is an editorial decision, not an unfortunate by-product of the embedding process that the news outlets were snookered into.

Much of the reporting of so-called “independent reporters” was also not very independent. They were often played like fiddles by the various insurgent factions. Sadr’s militia and IAI were notorious for not just fielding their own “reporters” but for also feeding bogus news stories to independent reporters and otherwise reputable news outlets such as AP and (especially) Reuters.

“By examining the content of articles rather than the tone, and comparing embedded and non-embedded journalists’ articles, it becomes clear that the physical, and perhaps psychological, constraints of the embedding program dramatically inhibited a journalist’s ability to cover civilians’ war experiences.”

Is the assumption here that if a news story is scandalous then it is objective, but if it is consistent with some administration talking point then it was tainted by the embedding process?

“But given the far greater frequency and prominence of published articles penned by embedded journalists, ultimately the embedding program proved a victory for the armed services in the historical tug-of-war between the press and military over journalistic freedom during war time.”

Even if true, it was not a very decisive victory. We lost the information war among the American audience, hands down. Abu Ghraib. Haditha. Fallujah. All were propaganda windfalls for our adversaries in theater and a crushing blow to the war’s legitimacy at home, largely due to the media giving those stories greater importance and life spans than what they merited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much of the discussion and data in this article looks at the reporting in terms of reporting about Soldiers versus reporting about civilians. Just because a news story features civilians, that does not mean that it is any more or less truthful or objective than a story featuring Soldiers.</p>
<p>As for the embedding process, obviously Soldiers are far more accessible if you work among them. But was this program intended to force reporters into close proximity with Soldiers or did the media jump at this program in order to obtain that close proximity? I think it is clearly the latter. If there is an invasion going on, which story do you think interests people more: stories about our Soldiers or stories about civilians? This is an editorial decision. News outlets stay in business by selling advertising space. If nobody watches the program or reads the print, then the advertising space is not worth much. In order to get people to keep reading/watching/buying, they need to present news that interests people.</p>
<p>Among the “independent reporters” many were independent specifically because they would not find what they were looking for if they were in the vicinity of Soldiers – regardless of the conditions of the embedding program. So, again, it is an editorial decision, not an unfortunate by-product of the embedding process that the news outlets were snookered into.</p>
<p>Much of the reporting of so-called “independent reporters” was also not very independent. They were often played like fiddles by the various insurgent factions. Sadr’s militia and IAI were notorious for not just fielding their own “reporters” but for also feeding bogus news stories to independent reporters and otherwise reputable news outlets such as AP and (especially) Reuters.</p>
<p>“By examining the content of articles rather than the tone, and comparing embedded and non-embedded journalists’ articles, it becomes clear that the physical, and perhaps psychological, constraints of the embedding program dramatically inhibited a journalist’s ability to cover civilians’ war experiences.”</p>
<p>Is the assumption here that if a news story is scandalous then it is objective, but if it is consistent with some administration talking point then it was tainted by the embedding process?</p>
<p>“But given the far greater frequency and prominence of published articles penned by embedded journalists, ultimately the embedding program proved a victory for the armed services in the historical tug-of-war between the press and military over journalistic freedom during war time.”</p>
<p>Even if true, it was not a very decisive victory. We lost the information war among the American audience, hands down. Abu Ghraib. Haditha. Fallujah. All were propaganda windfalls for our adversaries in theater and a crushing blow to the war’s legitimacy at home, largely due to the media giving those stories greater importance and life spans than what they merited.</p>
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		<title>By: ThickCulture &#187; secrecy and transparency</title>
		<link>http://contexts.org/articles/spring-2008/controlling-the-media-in-iraq/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>ThickCulture &#187; secrecy and transparency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the increased enforcement of the ban on such images marked a reversal of a larger trend. I have written elsewhere about the history of media-military relations, but, in short, military officials felt that journalists had far too much free reign in the [...]</description>
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